tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post1696858396858694261..comments2024-03-24T02:32:42.657-05:00Comments on music ruined my life: Frankie Flame: Dick Bartonjeffenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05015674620176399988noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-55005931047348095842013-08-16T12:55:43.357-05:002013-08-16T12:55:43.357-05:00Yes I am that very same Franky Flame who rattled t...Yes I am that very same Franky Flame who rattled the ivories at the legendary Goose and Firkin yonks ago... I'm still playing solo knees up shows and of course singing in Superyob! Contact me on facebook if you feel like it...www.facebook.com/franky.flame.3<br /><br />Cheers all, Franky aka The Wizard Of Oi! lolFranky Flamehttp://www.facebook.com/franky.flame.3noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-72003143616656574102013-07-26T13:02:08.646-05:002013-07-26T13:02:08.646-05:00Sounds likely..Sounds likely..jeffenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05015674620176399988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-10300337985388367542013-07-10T21:59:54.882-05:002013-07-10T21:59:54.882-05:00Is this the same guy who use to play piano at the ...Is this the same guy who use to play piano at the Goose and Firkin in 1987-1988Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-56319219603171196432010-03-21T10:12:26.521-05:002010-03-21T10:12:26.521-05:00Anon
I can pretty much agree with that but there A...Anon<br />I can pretty much agree with that but there ARE racist bands associated with the genre, so I like to make sure I'm not supporting the boneheads.jeffenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05015674620176399988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-34567344974031427432010-03-18T02:06:18.047-05:002010-03-18T02:06:18.047-05:00i swear, can't have a convo about oi without r...i swear, can't have a convo about oi without racism creeping in the convo, frankie flame said it best about oi!...."if you haven't gotten it yet, quit trying". oi ain't dead and it ain't racist.nuff saidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-87078130907450660412009-10-05T10:39:49.401-05:002009-10-05T10:39:49.401-05:00Thanks for the Frankie story.
Check his MySpace p...Thanks for the Frankie story.<br /><br />Check his MySpace page (linked in the post) to find out about Superyob (his Oi! band) and his solo piano tours. Frankie is still going!jeffenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05015674620176399988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-3414484982346141562009-10-04T21:18:41.903-05:002009-10-04T21:18:41.903-05:00i met frankie 20 odd years ago at the goose and fi...i met frankie 20 odd years ago at the goose and firkin what a legend, i now live abroad but will be in the uk soon is he still going and does anybody know wherestevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-48296293865006992092009-09-17T12:34:42.808-05:002009-09-17T12:34:42.808-05:00That slev is wretched. While I can't remember ...That slev is wretched. While I can't remember much about the B-side, I have an obsession about that A-side,it's inexplicable.<br /><br />Yeah Max Wall was an old music hall guy (who covered an Ian Dury song!)<br /><br />That tour title sounds more fitting, I always counted the Business on the side of good, roughly speaking.<br /><br />I only know the Partisans from that old No Future comp ("17 Years of Hell" and "Police Story") <br />From that little expereince, I always assumed they were archetypal UK 82 (Sham-meets-Motorhead kinda thing). Where they Clash obsessed?(if so I shall have to consider a post!)jeffenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05015674620176399988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-20701612705879614502009-09-17T04:09:34.334-05:002009-09-17T04:09:34.334-05:00Ha, yes definitely. That Freshman single is totall...Ha, yes definitely. That Freshman single is totally music hall. (Incidentally, I had to sell my copy because I hated the sleeve so much--some kind of MC Escher thing going on with the perspective on the teeth in that gaping mouth.) Also, I think stiff actually put out a single by an old music hall singer named Max Wall.<br /><br />As for the RAR/RAC dichotomy, I agree that it's a false equivalency, probably deliberately created by the fascists in order to brand rational humans as communists. For what it's worth, according to Garry Bushell, the Business tour was actually called "Oi Against Racism and Political Extremism But Still Against The System." It included the Partisans, whom you should really do something on if you ever get around to the theme of bands who were slavishly obsessed with the Clash!Adnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12324792967671757653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-3555034217952503642009-09-16T10:22:32.930-05:002009-09-16T10:22:32.930-05:00Adny
There's definitely some music hall punk, ...Adny<br />There's definitely some music hall punk, that "You've Never Hear Anything Like it" single by the Freshmen comes to mind plus of course 'punk pathetique' is kinda.<br />that way too.<br />That Business tour title is funny but it strikes me as bit of a false equivalency - Rock Against Racism, for all it's flaws, was a positive movement whereas Rock Against Communism was just a front for violent racism.<br />It's a weird ole' world...jeffenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05015674620176399988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-80345652681422632572009-09-15T15:45:37.732-05:002009-09-15T15:45:37.732-05:00Ah yes, I meant to type "UNfashionable"-...Ah yes, I meant to type "UNfashionable"--although when you think of it, punk's sense of humor was probably friendlier to Music Hall than a lot of other phases of UK pop. In any case, yeah, unfortunately I think Oi!'s flirtations with right wing idiocy is sort of a fetish for a lot of otherwise apolitical listeners. (Oooh, it's so dangerous!) It's tough to tell where the lines are drawn, unless you're talking about explicitly anti-racist bands (the Oppressed and I guess Demob) and outright scumbags (Brutal Attack, Skrewdriver, Skullhead). I read somewhere that the Business once drew their own squiggly line in the sand by calling their tour "The Rock-Against=Racism-and-Communism-but-Still-Against-the-System Tour." Ha.Adnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12324792967671757653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-14540748779788350702009-09-15T07:35:07.529-05:002009-09-15T07:35:07.529-05:00Adny
Music hall does seem to have a place in Briti...Adny<br />Music hall does seem to have a place in British rock n' roll - though I'm not sure it was in vogue in the early eighties but I could be wrong<br /><br />Y'know the worst thing about enjoying Oi! is that creeping fear of fascism. If some racist wrote a good song I can't take that away from them but I sure don't want to support them in anyway. I combed through his MySpace in search of bonehead tendencies but didn't turn up much. Still sad to hear about Superyob's distribution though...<br /><br />Thanks for the thoughtful comment.jeffenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05015674620176399988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-30415326615634259472009-09-15T00:19:31.696-05:002009-09-15T00:19:31.696-05:00Thanks for posting this. It must be insanely rare....Thanks for posting this. It must be insanely rare. I love the way he mixes in the music hall influence--that was probably really fashionable at the time. I too have heard Superyob and think they're great. Sadly, the only company I've seen distributing their stuff in the U.S. is Die Hard, who are racist shitheads. I hope that doesn't reflect on the band's own allegiances.Adnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12324792967671757653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-50685093837665485892009-09-13T08:09:41.440-05:002009-09-13T08:09:41.440-05:00gargoyle
Didn't every oi band do something wit...gargoyle<br />Didn't every oi band do something with Gary Bushell? For a journalist he was pretty deeply embedded in that whole scene.<br />Glad you enjoyed!<br /><br />In A Rut<br />Thanks for the good words and yeah Superyob sounded great - he sure ain't softening in his old age.jeffenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05015674620176399988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-61493752504261992412009-09-11T19:15:31.260-05:002009-09-11T19:15:31.260-05:00Great post Jeffen! His recordings with Superyob a...Great post Jeffen! His recordings with Superyob are great too (especially the Machine Guns and Alcohol album and the 2 tracks off of the More Working Class Anthems LP).In A Ruthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01462436729600996510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-40843450028230327132009-09-11T18:01:30.472-05:002009-09-11T18:01:30.472-05:00Many Thanks! Sure i've got something by this f...Many Thanks! Sure i've got something by this fella on one of my old oi! albums, didn't he do something with Garry Bushell too?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-66409123194410218312009-09-11T17:30:03.156-05:002009-09-11T17:30:03.156-05:00Oh well you can't always end up beside someone...Oh well you can't always end up beside someone who has great taste in music.<br /><br />Oi! Oi! That's Ther Lotjeffenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05015674620176399988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4191686244361274747.post-86387788481027375242009-09-11T16:50:57.102-05:002009-09-11T16:50:57.102-05:00I like it a lot more than my neighbours do...
And...I like it a lot more than my neighbours do...<br /><br />And I don't give a flying fuck whether they like it or not.<br /><br />Oi!<br /><br />;-)Richardnoreply@blogger.com