I took some upbraiding for suggesting that "Love Kills" is the First Great Post-Clash song, with the dissenters saying either it isn't a strong enough Strummer work or (more frequently) that the song cannot match the inventiveness or the tunes of the early singles of Mick Jones' B.A.D. (Big Audio Dynamite).
The story goes that before the sun had set on the day in 1983 he was fired from the Clash, Jones already had an early B.A.D. line-up (then called TRAC) in place. B.A.D. (Mick Jones - guitars and vocals, Don Letts - sound effects and vocals, Dan Donovan - keyboards, Leo Williams - bass, Greg Roberts - drums) created a sound fit for the eighties; with high-tech instrumentation, hip-hop accents and traditional pop song-writing.
Having this single on Def Jam does gives further credit to the fascinating role of the Clash in early hip-hop history, particularly their influence on the fierce, political work of Public Enemy.
As a Huge Clash Fan (Strummer Division) I've never felt comfortable with B.A.D. It's likely the sampling, the lengthy songs, the lack of guitar and the abundance of keyboards but mostly it's that infernal synthetic drum sound. That hollow-sounding, programmed beat tied Mick's very impressive work to the worst of eighties' production excesses.
All my biases (a result of having survived the eighties) aside, "The Bottom Line" is clearly excellent - the tune is unforgettable, Mick's guitar still rings out and those dopey lyrics are kinda charming. The best argument for this being the Last Great Clash Song is that the Clash did rehearse it, under the title "Trans Cash Free Pay One" before they self-destructed. Makes you wonder what could've been...
I can appreciate early B.A.D. in smaller doses... but I can never get past or overlook that horrendously synthetic and compressed 1980s production quality. Sonically speaking, it's unpardonable.
Well I have to say I love B.A.D. crap drum sound ta boot.
I have remixed the first album because it lacked any real bass, it is being re-released soon but I doubt it will be remixed. If you want a copy of my mix Jeff just PM me over at IMCT.
In reading these last two posts I am reminded of a telling critical assessment leveled at Black Flag's two major post break-up spin-offs: Gone and Rollin's Band. It went something like, "these two groups are seen as an acceptable replacement by most Black Flag fans in much the same way that The Plastic Ono Band and Wings were to devotees of The Beatles."
I pretty much agree with every syllable of that but I have gotten more forgiving (or more senile) in my old age so I'm appreciating slightly larger doses (i.e. a couple of songs in a row)
P.S. I'm liking the Sour Jazz stuff.
Marky
Yeah that drum sound is something that you either hate or choose to love I think.
P.S. I left a PM re the BAD link.
Longy
I'm getting BAD more these days but I'll always prefer Strummer stuff,though it's not hard to see why others wouldn't.
bio You made me laugh out loud - don't worry more to come plus a poll (I think...)
CPB
You're like Hawkeye Pierce, you just have to get the last word in.
I've made it to the point where I can listen to most of the first BAD album in one sitting, which I definitely credit to growing more forgiving with old age! And many thanks for the kind words about Sour Jazz, Jeffen... coming from a man of taste such as yourself, we're honoured!
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I can appreciate early B.A.D. in smaller doses... but I can never get past or overlook that horrendously synthetic and compressed 1980s production quality. Sonically speaking, it's unpardonable.
ReplyDeleteWell I have to say I love B.A.D. crap drum sound ta boot.
ReplyDeleteI have remixed the first album because it lacked any real bass, it is being re-released soon but I doubt it will be remixed. If you want a copy of my mix Jeff just PM me over at IMCT.
It took me a while to "get" B.A.D. but I have to admit I liked them alot.
ReplyDeleteIs this better than Strummers Love Kills? In my opinion,yes it is.
Nothing beats the extended version of V Thirteen on the Bad Files though!
It has no claim at all.
ReplyDeleteNext song, please!
In reading these last two posts I am reminded of a telling critical assessment leveled at Black Flag's two major post break-up spin-offs: Gone and Rollin's Band. It went something like, "these two groups are seen as an acceptable replacement by most Black Flag fans in much the same way that The Plastic Ono Band and Wings were to devotees of The Beatles."
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ReplyDeleteI pretty much agree with every syllable of that but I have gotten more forgiving (or more senile) in my old age so I'm appreciating slightly larger doses (i.e. a couple of songs in a row)
P.S. I'm liking the Sour Jazz stuff.
Marky
Yeah that drum sound is something that you either hate or choose to love I think.
P.S. I left a PM re the BAD link.
Longy
I'm getting BAD more these days but I'll always prefer Strummer stuff,though it's not hard to see why others wouldn't.
bio
You made me laugh out loud - don't worry more to come plus a poll (I think...)
CPB
You're like Hawkeye Pierce, you just have to get the last word in.
Very fitting quote.
I've made it to the point where I can listen to most of the first BAD album in one sitting, which I definitely credit to growing more forgiving with old age! And many thanks for the kind words about Sour Jazz, Jeffen... coming from a man of taste such as yourself, we're honoured!
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