Do I think Obama lost the first debate in Denver?
Yes.
Do I think Romney won?
Not really.
I’m a fierce Obama supporter but I can admit it when I think
he fucked up.
I think Obama fucked up by failing to ready himself. I also
think he underestimated two things about Romney: one was Romney’s being
rehearsed (to the point of appearing haughty and over-prepared at times) and,
more lethally, was Romney’s willingness to lie. Mitt’s denying the existence of
his tax plan, or at least any verifiable version of it was an intolerable
betrayal of the American people.
There are lots of hasty explanations being offered; the loser,
whether Republican or Democrat, always tries to spin a debate loss. The rope-a-dopers say that Obama wanted to stay calm
while an over-excited Romney buried himself in lies. Others
point out how incumbents frequently lose the first debate and still others
blame terrible moderation by Jim Lehrer and others say the president attacking
Romney in that setting is un-presidential and would only end up elevating the
contender. Some even claim he lost on purpose because he knew, as we all do, that the media needed to get a start on Mitt's Comeback story.
I'll wait to see how these things shake down to determine if there's credibility to any of these assertions. The bottom line is, regardless of what happened in Denver last night, if the president doesn’t pick himself up off
that mat and get Mitt, he’s dead.
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You're kidding right? You STILL support obama? Nobody lies like obama. He passes NDAA, he wants to take worker's rights to private votes, he expanded the scope of the Patriot Act, he has the most corrupt administration ever, ....
ReplyDeleteWow. You are behind the curve.
Hey weren't you the one who blew a gasket when I reviewed a single by a band who wrote a song about Sarah Palin?*
DeleteWell your sense of perspective has shown no signs of widening as this laughably unsubstantiated accusation proves: "he has the most corrupt administration ever,"
*http://musicruinedmylife.blogspot.ca/2012/02/capitalist-kids-sarahayn-2012.html#comment-form
More corrupt than "weapons of mass destruction", and voting fraud in Florida? Cheney/Halliburton? Voter ID requirements? Watergate?
DeleteMaria, do you want a President who turns his back on 47% of the American people? Please read this story in Rolling Stone, and you'll realize that Romney's out for himself, and no one else. The first page alone is very damning.
http://tinyurl.com/98dqu2y
"Do you want a President who turns his back on 47% of the American people?"
DeleteGood ballot question.
Disappointing performance from Obama. I wouldn't say Romney had a decisive victory, he was just better prepared. Huge mistake by Obama by not bringing up Romney's 47% remark. He can go for Mitt's throat without being nasty, there's a lot of material to use.
ReplyDeleteHa-ha, the trolls are all out with what they percieve as a Romney win. Can you blame them, he's had so few. Romney can't even carry his own state which at least they could do in 2008. "I can see Russia from my backyard" has been replaced with "Why dont windows open on jets" and the way to put out a fire is by increasing the oxygen.
DeleteI thought the same as you at first. Obama had to be neutral since the tea party (am. taliban) is middle aged white men as their only demographic. They don't need logic, science, math, history, geography or the last 30 years in foreign pokitics to believe what they do. Contraception? They must be joking. Nope.
Obama got in a few shots, they were well placed, such as Trump becoming Romney's small business advisor... Also consider that only 1%-2% are undecieded at this point in time. There is a far greater chance that more than that could be alienated by GOP new ID laws for voting. A lot of people are upset by the dirty tactics, including GOP registration fraud. That's not going over well.
One thing Romny has done is ignight Obama's base, not so much for him but as a vote against Romney.
Clinton and Biden can go after republican's more aggressively than Obama can. You can tell by how dark the bronzer is on Romney's face that his opposition is race based.
I hate automatic spell check in these forums. Just ignore the errors.
DeleteJerry Lee
DeleteWhile I'm skeptical of a lot of the "Obama took a dive" talk I am convinced that he didn't want to let Mitt get his well-rehearsed dodge of the 47% remark out in front of a national audience. I think he would have been a fool to give him the opening. That's why Mitt went on Fox to give his weasel-like pseudo-apology.
That was one point Obama got on the board.
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Delete"One thing Romny has done is ignight Obama's base, not so much for him but as a vote against Romney.'
And I think he might've lit a fire under Obama's ass as well.
Good point, Jeffen, Romney's camp must have been pissed, and the more I think about it, the funnier it gets. He may have been so well rehearsed, he didn't know how to bring it up as a spontaneous remark. Ironic that it took him almost 3 weeks to claim it was a mistake; just another flip-flop.
ReplyDeleteWell they're both playing chess, Romney decided to save his entire 'swing-to-the-middle' for the debate, to make sure his base was too desperate to criticize him. Now he feels free to play his Massachusetts Mitt character again.
DeleteI'm pleased that Obama refused to give him any more opportunity than necessary.
It is my hope that America sees Mitt as the man without any other political principal then self-advancement.
It is difficult to debate someone who stands for nothing. It's like trying to nail jello to a wall. Mitt is a pathological liar who will say whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear. Even if it directly contradicts something he said to a different audience 5 minutes ago. The man has no principles, morals or ethics. All he is interested in is himself and how much wealth he has. He would say anything for a vote but doesn't give a shit about 99.9% of the population.
ReplyDelete"It is difficult to debate someone who stands for nothing. It's like trying to nail jello to a wall."
DeleteAgreed.
Also consider Mitt has offended every demographic outside of middle-aged white males and they are a minority. I think they really intend on gaming the actual voting.
ReplyDeleteThat's my fear; that The Republicans just need the election to be close enough to rig.
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